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Why I Don't Go to the LDS Women's Conference

In the LDS church (of which I am a member), each year we have two conferences where our leaders speak to us. These happen during the first week of April and October, and the week before the general conference is the women’s conference.

What’s that? A conference for women?

It seems like a thing I should love. But every year when it rolls around, I find myself in a little bit of agony. In theory, I should adore a night with talks by women (mostly) about what women might need to know.

But every year—at the end of September, at the end of March—I get a little bit sad, and frustrated, and annoyed, and sad again.

I confess: I do not go to the Women’s Conference. I don’t go to the meal beforehand that is sometimes held, I don’t listen to it on the radio or watch it on TV. I usually read the talks when they are published a month later. But attending the actual conference is untenable to me. Tonight, as I was discussing this with Kendell over a bowl of pumpkin curry at our favorite Thai place (after he’d noticed that the tables were mostly full of dads and sons), I felt like it was a thing I should write about. (Perhaps in the hopes that I am not the only one.)

So here it is, my list of the reasons why I don’t go to the Women’s Conference:

  1. I liked the old system better. When Haley was still a teenager, the church handled the conferences in a different way. In March, the focus was on the young women (ages 12-18); in October, the focus was on the Relief Society (women older than 18). Right after she graduated, the system was changed. I feel very grateful that this change didn’t happen until after she finished with the Young Women program, as the times we went to Salt Lake for the Young Women’s Conference were some of my favorite outings of her adolescence.

Now, however, each Women’s Conference is for all girls ages eight and up. And while I partly understand this change—to be welcoming and inclusive to the younger generations I suppose—it takes away my ability to feel like the talks can focus on my needs. Does that sound selfish? It probably is. But such an age span means the talks must be both more broadly applicable and less oriented to specifics, so as to appeal to so many different ages, needs, life experiences, and knowledge. I have found less personally-relevant talks since this new system was put into place.

  1. I dislike being spoken to like I am a child. Some of the speakers, maybe knowing that the audience includes younger girls, modulate their voices in a way that makes me—well, quite frankly, it drives me bonkers. It is the way kindergarten teachers speak to their charges, the tone of smiling women speaking encouraging, kind, simple words very, very gently. Maybe they speak that way all the time, maybe I am old and crotchety and bitter and harsh (actually, strike that “maybe"); maybe I will never be one of those women who think all women need mothers and so step in to mother them. I’d like to write “I don’t need a mother” except I sort of do, as my relationship with my mother feels so fractured and troubled right now. Really what I don’t need is someone talking to me in a high, sing-songy, kind voice. Whatever they are saying gets lost for me in how they say it.
  2. It isn’t really a women’s conference. Much as I usually like what the male leaders happen to say during the women’s conference (at least they don’t say it in that treacly tone of voice), their very presence “presiding” at a women’s conference frustrates me. Until women do the whole damn thing—or, shockingly, until women are invited to speak at the male priesthood session of conference—calling it a “women’s conference” isn’t quite right. In fact, it is a symbol of what frustrates me most about the church right now.
  3. It is too painful. Much of the social context of the conference is about women going with their tribe of women and, as pathetic as it sounds, I don’t have one of those. I have one daughter who isn’t interested in the church right now. I have a mom who would likely go with me if I asked, but remember that fractured/troubled thing? As much as I love her, asking her to go with me hurts more than going by myself. I have a sister who lives only two miles away from me, but she doesn’t need to go with me—she has daughters to go with, or a bunch of women friends. Ditto my sister-in-law. I have friends, of course—but they already have their tribes of friends or sisters or big family groups they go with. Would they invite me to come along? Of course. Would I feel awkward and on the outside? Yes; in the words of Luna Lovegood, “It's like having friends.” No one wants to get a sympathy invite. And sure, I could go by myself and sit by myself, I could even go and sit with someone friendly in my ward who I sort-of know. But watching all of those women in their tribes while I am tribeless only reminds me of the complicated relationships I have. It reminds me of what I don’t have, of what I messed up, of what I don’t know how to fix.

And it’s not just during the meeting. It’s after the meeting, too, when the Thai restaurant and every other eating establishment will have filled up with women. Moms, daughters, grandmas, granddaughters, aunts, cousins, sisters, friends. Keeping their tribes strong while I walk home by myself. And then it’s the Facebook posts, the photos of generations together, of old friends hanging out in their church clothes.

In fact I have to avoid Facebook altogether.

Likely there is someone reading this who is thinking “you just have to try harder. Go and find some friends.” Or “why don’t you fix things in your family then?” Or “stop feeling sorry for yourself.” Or even “socializing isn’t the point, learning is.”

And maybe one day in my life things will change and be better. Maybe the church will come to understand what equality really means. Maybe I will find a tribe. (I think the former is more likely to happen than the latter; I’m almost 45 years old. What tribe will have me now?)

But the truth is that, for now, the women’s conference is just too much. If not going makes me a bad Mormon….well, as much as I love the church, we all know that is not the first thing that’s made me a bad Mormon.

Comments

Christine Newman

While I'm not Mormon, I am the same when it comes to my own church's women's conferences. I don't go to them for the same reasons that you don't. I have differing opinions about women's role in the church. I don't have kids. I work full time. And I don't have a tribe either. I can totally relate.

mellieundershaws

Same here. Until women run the Women's conference in the church of my youth, I will stay far, far away. It makes me as nuts as a priest having to counsel my husband and me on marriage before we could marry in the church. Dude, you'll never know a marital argument, not about money, socks, children, toilet seats, aging parent support or friends. Please don't pretend to be an authority figure on marriage.

Becky

I am tribeless too. I have never been to women's conference. I used to feel bad about that, but I don't anymore.

That we cannot conduct a meeting on our own as women - it's baffling. I can't really listen to any recent talks - even in regular conference. Too much time is spent on justification for policies. There are too many absolutes. I just can't anymore.

Big hugs. I get you, sis. Xo

heatherhoyt

I think sometimes we should be more patient with ourselves and our progress in life, wherever that is. It's okay if we don't understand everything (no one does). If we get frustrated sometimes. If we aren't quite in the same place as someone else. If we don't feel quite ready to reach out and make friends. We've ALL been there, sometimes people are just too afraid to admit it.

Usually I make friends best when I'm trying to love others more, so it's less about having friends for myself as trying to find others who need someone. Sometimes I don't do that well. Sometimes I desperately want someone to reach out to me--but it has almost never happened until I reach out first.

But I do think you are needed, and loved, and that you WILL find people because you are absolutely not too old and age really has nothing to do with it. I don't have a group of friends, a tribe, frankly. But I do have individual friends because I love those individual people, of all ages and all situations.

People really do love you, just how you are.

Feisty Harriet

A) Yes, yes, yes, and yes. I feel ALL of these feels, but probably couldn't have verbalized them.

B) The tribe? I don't have one here in AZ, and it is my biggest loss of moving. Where are my people!?

xox

Andrea Baugh

I can't listen to it. The breathy coddling voices are painful to my brain. I focus more on how infuriating it is to be talked to like that than I do the message. So I have to wait and read the messages later.
This year the tribe thing was more painful than the voices though. I had no one to watch the kids; because there is no husband around because his job isn't cooperating. No one to go with. None of my "old" friends that would have gone with me. No Linda and Donna around to make me go. So I sit in a crappy apartment (because I wouldn't buy a house without a guarantee of a job down here first) instead of a happy blue house, alone.

Stefanie

This post resonates with me more than you could know. It is completely validating for me to read your words that express my feelings so perfectly and eloquently. It is good to know I am not alone in these "off-the-beaten-path" feelings. Thank you!

Bounceback

Sounds painful. Sounds really hard. Im so sorry for your situation right now. I agree, at one time or another we all have these feelings of being separate and alone. Whether we have created the situation or whether it has happened to us, it is still painful. I wish I could help somehow. I have recently found great relief in a book entitled, "The Way of Agape" by Chuck and Nancy Missler that is written from a women's perspective. I was in so much pain I knew I needed to know something else in order to deal with my feelings, my needs, and my emotions and the inability of someone to speak about the accuracy of what I could do and think differently that could change my inner soul. I know is socially acceptable only to just validate your feelings....I really do. But if you want to feel better and find answers to this abandonment you are feeling, I think this will REALLY help. I am 59 years old and have read a ton of books, including reading the scriptures as a constant diet and this book has soothed my soul and my relationships that I have prayed would be healed are miraculously changing. I guess I was ready to change. That's the cool part, when it gets really painful, when the student is ready to learn, the teacher arrives.

womenandgirl child

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